Deze is zeker ook de moeite waard, een vervolg, maar een hele goeie..!Er wordt perfect doorgebreid aan het originele verhaal.
Overbodig te zeggen dat dit een zeeeeer vermakelijke film is!
[rating 5]
Dit is gewoon een klassieker te noemen.
Zit veel in, emotie, psychologie, aktie, noem maar op,uitstekend film vermaak,''Sir...Yes sir!!!''
Ik heb vooral van de training genoten, en het aktiestukje in dat kapot geschoten stadje,(beestmens)[spoiler]als ze hun maat willen redden,met sniper aktie geniaal opgenomen![/spoiler]
Dit IS gewoon DE film voor de zaterdag
:W T+)
[rating 4.5]
[quote]Dat is geen interpretatie, Emperor, maar een beschrijving van iets dat duidelijk zo bedoeld is (alleen Osiris had ik niet herkend :P)
Heeft de auteur hiervan ook iets over het einde van de film te vertellen? Want dat gedeelte leent zich denk ik meer voor eigen interpretaties.
[rating 5][/quote]
[quote]The whole setup by Kubrick was that everyone who experience's the film should 'add their own dialogue'. My own own interperetation of the opening 20 minutes was, the 'dawn of thought', a bit obvious I know, but the interaction of the Monolith was to instigate emotion and inspire 'thinking'.
The Philosophy of the film was to question:
(a) The reasons for believing in the existence of intelligent extra-terrestrial life.
(b) The impact such a discovery would have on earth.
(c) Man's place in the universe, from a scientific view. (rather than religious)
Kubrick's primary aims was to invoke Wonder, Awe, and maybe Terror. (Kinda like a certain US military campaign ). Presumeably confusion came into it and the idea was a kind of myth in space. Certainly make the audience feel utterly insignificant was acheived... Clarke's concerns was to push the idea of UFOs from overoccupying most film sci-fi.
Part of the ending came from none other than Carl Sagan. Compare Contact, perhaps, to see some vague influences. Or not.
And yes, the final thing was a Star Gate. And the film explicitly decided NOT to show the aliens.
The Star-Child transformation is about Bowman's ascendency to the state of a cosmic consciousness. The baby represents his emerging nature. This continues in the other books...
The film is meant to work on two levels... The viseral and emotional, and the philosophical.
Quotes:
"If anyone understands it on the first viewing, we've failed in our intention" Arthur C Clarke
"... because we were dealing with the mystery of the universe, and with powers and forces greater than man's comprehension, then by definition they could not be totally understandable."
"Read the book, see the film and repeat the dose as often as neccessary."
[/quote]
Dat is alles wat er stond,maar
hier staat het hele script..
http://www.palantir.net/2001/script.html
[quote] continued
As the dawn of a new day (or, age) appears, primitive man awakens to what sounds like buzzing. The buzzing grows louder and louder.He awakens the others and they quickly encircle a monolith which seems to have been placed within their midst while they slept. Notice how they all dance about while one of the apes encourages the other until he at last touches the surface of the monolith. The symbology of this is Adam being encouraged by Eve to partake of the forbidden fruit. Something significant has now happened and this is born out by the change and intensity of the sounds being heard. The other members of this 'tribe' also touch the object, being no doubt reassured after seeing the first one do the same. They have followed his lead and this can be interpreted in several ways. Notice 'Osiris' and the 'boat of Isis' shown above the monolith, and take particular note of the phallic stone formations shown in the next two scenes, for there is a pattern here...
The symbology is speaking of 'primordial knowing', which is portrayed in the Bible as the story of the eating of the apple, in which the gift of intellect is bestowed upon mankind. The sound of those 'bees' relate to the beehive, which is a symbol of societal cohesion where individuals work together in the form of a society, the birth of primitive society, if you will. Notice the look of this primitive individual as first he looks at the bones before him then views the scene of Osiris riding upon the boat of Isis directly above the monolith. The sun would be at 'high noon', its zenith, and the symbology is of the ape/man making a connection and having the first original thought in the history of the world. He has been imparted knowledge/intellect and this is symbolized by the monolith, sun, and eclipse. You can see the gears turning as he invents the first tool. As the bones fly about he makes another connection and smashes the animal skull. His mind now is hard at work and being developed into a tool itself. As the skull is crushed an animal is shown falling and I'm sure if you watch this clip the meaning won't be lost on you. By the late afternoon of this day (age) primitive man has now become a hunter and meat eater...
Notice what the gift of intellect brings as the next 'day' the watering hole confrontation once again occurs. We see that the group which has been given the gift of intellect is armed, while the other group which has not made the evolutionary leap is not. In the scuffle that takes place for 'watering rights' the death of one of the 'innocents' occurs as he is beaten with bones. The symbology of what you are viewing here is the murder of Able by his brother Cain, and the romantic age of innocence has officially come to an end. The fight for the future will be won by those who can make the necessary evolutionary jump in their 'thinking', and this is a point you need to remember. Where this jump in mans thinking, through the use of the gift of intellect, takes him is shown symbolically by the tossing of the bone into the air and the next scene of a space vessel, which physically resembles the bone tossed. The symbology is that the progressive use and development of the mind of man will carry him out into space
To briefly, and biblically, summarize my last two posts you have been watching the creation of the world by God, the gift of intellect given to man by Lucifer, the loss of innocence that came with intellect, and the symbolic removal of man from the Garden of Eden.[/quote]
Niet lezen als je bang bent voor spoilers,maar dit is een interessante interpretatie
[quote]Ill split it this into parts so that I dont have to work so hard at it.
Now it is time for an esoteric interpretation (note that I italicize the word an) grab your popcorn, a soda, and pull up a chair. Virtually everything in that movie was symbolic of something else. The next time you watch it pay attention to the symbology and imagery that you are shown
At the start of the movie you saw a world which was dark and lifeless. As the Earth moves down the moon appears, and then the sun. As the movement progresses there is a partial eclipse that takes place and those who know something about Egyptian tales will recognize the form of the boat of Isis. As the sun rises on top of the crescent it becomes Osiris. Together they symbolize Osiris riding across the heavens upon the boat of Isis. This is to signify creation, both of the universe and the world. Osiris also represents the triumph of life over death and note what this triumph is going to bring forth upon the lifeless, barren planet that is shown in the next few scenes
As the light of day begins to emerge you hear the noise of primitive life (insects) and witness a barren plain, rocks, desert, with essentially nothing growing on it. The sun continues to rise in the east above the horizon and this is meant to signify the birth of the world. Next, the wind begins to blow as the sun continues on its journey. The significance of the wind is to tell you that something was/is happening. Sure enough, in the next scene you see that small green plants make their appearance, and following that another scene shows the development of trees. Dont overlook that you are being shown rock formations which bear a resemblance to the male reproductive organ, complete with testicles. For those who have some knowledge of the occult you would understand the significance of this. It is a symbol of the generative force of creation. This symbol has other forms too, but the thing to understand at this point is that the sun traveling across the heavens is not meant to signify a day, no, it signifies an age.
As the sun reaches its most powerful aspect (zenith) animal life has developed. This is first seen in the form of an animal skull, then of a collection of bones including a humanoid skull. As this age wears on you are then shown primitive man in the form of an ape munching on some plants/vegetable matter. This is symbolically important as what you are being shown (and are about to be shown) is that man and the animals lived side by side, neither harming the other. This represents vegetarian man living in a state of innocence. For an interpretation involving the Bible, this state of being is depicted in the book of Genesis as innocent, vegetarian man, living in the garden of Eden. Notice, even when man and the animals were competing for food in this desolate environment no one was harmed, just some grunting, arm waving, etc. As the day (age) wears on a leopard jumps one of the apes but is not shown to actually kill the ape who squeals loudly as he escapes at least once from the cat. The scene blacks out and leaves to your imagination how this encounter might have concluded
Next comes the watering hole episode. As a group of primitive man has been satisfying their thirst, another group approaches. There was a great amount of screeching, arm waving, and other body gestures before the group which had already taken a drink backed away and the next group moved in. The important thing to take from this scene is that no one was either injured or killed. As the sun begins to set in the west you see the leopard again, this time with a definite kill it has made. Primitive man seeks shelter inside a cave (a cave is representative of things too, but that is another story). Notice that they are all afraid, eyes open, afraid of the dark and the predatory animals that lurk about in it. There is a mother holding and comforting a small child to her breast. The symbology of this is that primitive man is beginning to evolve from apelike beings into humans that could actually think, as they clearly had some fearful thoughts going on inside their little craniums.
To sum up a few points, the birth of the world occurred with the rising sun and as it progressed across the heavens, first plants, then animals, emerged. Primitive man was living in a state of innocence, harming nothing. By the time it went down in the west primitive man was showing signs of what it shares in common with much of modern man. That being fear of the dark and the longing for the return of the son, err I mean, sun
More later, as my back is killing me.
[/quote]
Prachtige film!! in alle opzichten.
Prachtige opnames in de woestijnen..:W
Er zitten zoveel mooie momenten in teveel om op te noemen.
Je moet er even voor gaan zitten, maar dan heb je wel wat!
Meeslepend verhaal, eigenlijk enig in zijn soort.
Wat mij vooral aansprak was het avontuurlijke,en dan zit je
met deze film 100 % goed!
T+)
[rating 5]
[quote]Ook niet een heel klein beetje? :}
[/quote]
From Hell is gebaseerd op het alom bekende Jack the ripper verhaal,op de 2 dvd versie,die ik bezit,staat op de 2e dvd een hele documentaire. compleet met origineel fotomateriaal,en verklaringen,die toendertijd genomen zijn,op de plekken waar de moorden echt hebben plaatsgevonden.
Leuke film!
Kerst comedy rond deze tijd heeft altijd iets extra's
Chevy Chase, Beverly D'Angelo teleurstellen wederom niet.
De beste was de voorganger: National Lampoon's Vacation,( die ik in mijn hart heb gesloten)maar deze is bijna net zo leuk.
[rating 4]
[quote=Shaffa2]Haha, iedere keer weer heb ik het idee van: "Kom op Paul Edgecomb, waarom heb je 'm toch gedood? Wat had de wereld anders kunnen zijn met een man als John Coffey...." Ja, het is wel aanlokkelijk is om te geloven in een Messias of iets dergelijks.[/quote]
alles gaat zoals het moet gaan,alles is bestemd,voor alles is een reden.
De beste oorlogsfilm (zelfs SPR is niet zo goed)!!zeer mooi camerawerk! :9
zalig acteerwerk! echt smullen.
[rating 5]
(heerlijk om iemand zo te zien ploeteren voor een waardeloos stukje metaal haha!)
[quote=JeXus]shawshank redemption is ook niet zo geweldig en schokkend als iedereen laat lijken, imho...
evenals the green mile wat dat betreft, dit betekend uiteraard niet dat het slechte films zijn, maar mensen mogen wel ietwat kritischer zijn voordat ze met de massa meegaan[/quote]
Met de massa meegaan zou betekenen, dat je een film goed moet vinden,omdat de rest dat ook doet.. je hoeft hier gelukkig geen filmcriticus te zijn om een film te kunnen beoordelen.
Ik denk ook dat de mensen op dit forum gewoon hun mening over hetgeen wat ze gezien hebben willen geven,en niet omdat de film toevallig bij de grote massa in de smaak valt.
Heerlijke 'gemoderniseerde' versie van de Charles Dickens 'Scrooge'.
Al hou ik meer van de originele scrooge, die ze naar mijn mening veel te weinig uitzenden,(dit jaar alweer niet,volgens mij.)
[rating 4.5]
als reactie op de film Close Encounters of the Third Kind
als reactie op de film Where Eagles Dare
als reactie op de film Force 10 from Navarone
als reactie op de film Ghostbusters II
als reactie op de film Ghostbusters
als reactie op de film Stripes
als reactie op de film Full Metal Jacket
als reactie op de film 2001: A Space Odyssey
als reactie op de film 2001: A Space Odyssey
als reactie op de film 2001: A Space Odyssey
als reactie op de film 2001: A Space Odyssey
als reactie op de film Lawrence of Arabia
als reactie op de film The Lawnmower Man
als reactie op de film Donnie Brasco
als reactie op de film Bedazzled
als reactie op de film Speed
als reactie op de film Passenger 57
als reactie op de film Passenger 57
als reactie op de film The Haunting
als reactie op de film Bedazzled
als reactie op de film The Witches
als reactie op de film The Witches
als reactie op de film Don Quixote
als reactie op de film National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
als reactie op de film Casper
als reactie op de film How the Grinch Stole Christmas
als reactie op de film The Mask of Zorro
als reactie op de film The Wizard of Oz
als reactie op de film Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
als reactie op de film Lawrence of Arabia
als reactie op de film The Green Mile
als reactie op de film The Green Mile
als reactie op de film Cross of Iron
als reactie op de film The Green Mile
als reactie op de film Scrooged